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Edit event: Kleiner Traithen
T3 - Kleiner Traithen
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Großer Traithen + Kleiner Traithen
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Let's take a hiking trip from Bayrischzell to kleiner Traithen.
This event is limited to a maximum of 60 people.
It will be probably a T3 hike with 5,5 hour duration, 14km length and 925m altitude.
(The definitions about T1-T5 you can find unter this link: https://www.hiking-buddies.com/blog/2018/07/02/sac-hiking-scale/?fbclid=IwAR1vChqb_VYS-QP2RTKHapbNSS2xJPG9C8wxBsjcdBSrbI74fyyWKcbW4pQ).
We will walk as 1 group. All together.
We will arrive in the evening probably around 8pm in Munich.
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Details:
We will meet at 7:10am at the main train station at platform 33.
If we don’t have the 49€-ticket, then try to come on time and I will try to help you to buy a Bayernticket with the others who also don’t have that ticket.
The train leaves at 07:30 am. If you are late, then you need to find us on the train.
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Cost:
-train ticket: 0€ if you have 49€-Ticket
Bayernticket: 14-22€ (depends on amount of participants)
Food:
Please bring something with you.
Maybe we will grab a drink/food at a restaurant in the village near the train station after the hike.
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This hike is more a Meetup than a hike. But instead of sitting in a restaurant, we will go up a mountain.
That means you can meet plenty of new people and talk with everyone.
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Disclaimer: Hiking can be dangerous. I am not a mountain guide. Everybody is responsible for her/himself. Make yourself familiar with the route and its requirements. It's recommended to download a map and bring a cell phone and first aid kit for emergencies.
If you decide to leave the group (go in front by yourself), then we won’t search for you.
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Attention:
Please decide by Friday evening if you really still want to participate in my hike on Sunday.
Even if you are only on the waiting list. Please check if you still want to join the hike, if suddenly there would still be places available. Many times 5-10 people of the waiting list will upgraded to participant a few hours before the hike. If that would be too late for you to join, then please leave the waiting list.
The people who leave my event on the last day (or don't show up) will be put on my private blacklist. If I see on that list that this happens regularly, then that person can’t join my hikes anymore.
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Filip
2 years ago
60 people hike?!
I would say something but it's not appropriate for this website.
How exactly to you plan to keep an eye on 60 people, most of whom you never met?
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Fabian esteban Seguel
2 years ago
hello! first of all most of the people know each other. So keeping an eye on everyone is not hard when you have multiple people taking care of everyone. second of all, few of the people going are willing and can potentially not finish the hike and accompany those who are not able to do it. So although only one person is the organiser, everyone (or many ones) are responsible for hiking. actually that is the disclaimer of the website. Every person is responsible for its own safety but even if that fails, as I said, most of the people know each other and have been in a large group hike before with no issues.
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James Neuhaus
2 years ago
There are at least 7 ppl signed up who have never been on a hiking buddies hike before. Furthermore, there are sections of this hike that are cabled on the way down. Even if 6-7 ppl are experienced and looking after everyone else, there is no way that you can possibly keep an eye on everyone. I agree that the disclaimer on the website should mean that people take more responsibility on themselves than relying solely on the organiser, but that does not mean that an organiser has no responsibility. By organising such a large group on such a trip, they are being incredibly reckless in my opinion. As a separate point, I feel sorry for anyone else on that mountain on that day, given that there will be so many people in one place at one time. Definitely not what anyone else on the mountain would want or appreciate.
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James Neuhaus
2 years ago
Putting all of the above points to one side, you have also completely incorrectly advertised the hike as being 800m up and down and 9.8 km, with approx 4 hours time. You mention that it is 3km from the station at the beginning and the end as an aside, but this is also incorrect. The shortest route to anywhere on the hike from the rail station is about 5km and 600 hm, making the whole trip 20 km and 1400 hm, taking a time of 8 and a half hours. It might be shorter if you were to take a bus, but the only way that would be possible is if you start hiking at 10:34, since that is the only suitable connection all morning. Furthermore, the larger the group, the slower everyone walks. This is simply a fact. By advertising this as a simple meetup that happens to be on a mountain with a minimal amount of ascent/descent and distance is a staggering misrepresentation of what this hike is.
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James Neuhaus
2 years ago
As I said above, it is the responsibility of every participant to read the event and to look after each other, but by organising such an event and advertising it in such a way, this is incredibly dangerous behaviour that should not be encouraged on this platform (and arguably not allowed - I will message a few of the admins in this regard later this evening)
I'm sorry if you think that I am speaking out of place, but there is so much potential for this to go horrendously wrong.
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Muralidharan Jagannathan
2 years ago
any reason why you are planning a social hike at 6:10? … 😂… wish it was 9:10
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Pamitosh Giri
2 years ago
😂
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
I changed the time. We can start 1 hour later. We will meet at 7:10
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Marco Mecarozzi
2 years ago
No man on the Planet Earth can check 60 people at the same time. This Is not reasonable and not safe. I understand that you want to organize a hike with a very strong social aspect but then maybe a easier One and anyway with a more reasonable Number. James explained properly the potential issues above.
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Cosmin Mihoreanu
2 years ago
"We will walk as 1 group. All together." REALLY?
Andreas, please be serious about using this platform when organising such events. Instead, feel free to use other platforms.
60 people on a mountain? As a group???
Really feel bad for all the people who join such events.
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Muralidharan Jagannathan
2 years ago
What that got to do with the platform? Honestly … it is between organizer and the participants no? Organizer feels they have the ability.. participants think the organizer can … and no one is children here right?
Where do you draw the line … a organizer with 1 participant can be as bad a one with 60 people …
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
First of all, there will never be 60 people. There will be 10-20 people canceling or not joining in the last moment.
At my last hike I organised for 50 people and we were 35 in the end.
The way how I lead the group works without losing any participants. Noone is left behind. We walk as slow as the slowest. If someone gets bored, he/she can leave the group. But till now everytime everyone accepts this rule and adjust their speed.
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
I walk as the first person and stop every 5-10mins to check if still everyone is there
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
If an accident happens, then the person who is injured can decide, if he/she needs a helicopter and if she/he will wait for it by him/herself. But I‘m sure someone of the group will offer to stay with the injured one. If not, then we will decide a new group leader and I stay with the injured one till help arrives. I chose a T3 route and we will be quite slow because of the group size. This will reduce the risk of accidents.
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James Neuhaus
2 years ago
I remain of the opinion that 35 is at least two times too large for any hike in the mountains, but if you are to organise such a hike, which you say works, then it really has to be a much easier route. This particular route (which I have done twice) borders on T4 difficulty on one or two sections.
Furthermore the difference between the distance/time that you advertise and what I have calculated above means that the participants won’t be prepared for such a hike.
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James Neuhaus
2 years ago
And your response to me expressing my concerns is to immediately block me on Facebook. Just wonderful…
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James Neuhaus
2 years ago
If you go at the pace of the slowest in a group of 35, how is anyone else on the mountain supposed to pass you? You are not considering the other mountain users
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
Thanks for letting me know, that there are one or two section with T4 difficulty. I will remind every participant about that and let them decide by themself, if they still want to participate on that hike.
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Thomas T.
2 years ago
Could you please explain the 3km route from train station to the starting point? According to my map it is much more
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
I modified the hike. We will go only to Kleiner Traithen.
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
I modified the hike. Now we will start the hike directly the trainstation. And we will go only to Kleiner Traithen. The complete distance will be 14km, 925hm and 5,5h.
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Thomas T.
2 years ago
Amit could replace the route of the event if you send him the link
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
I informed him. You can also find the gps under following link: https://www.hiking-buddies.com/routes/routes_list/4670/
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Omie Abhi
2 years ago
I won't be able to make it tomorrow. Sorry
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
I created a WhatsApp Group for photos, etc. You can join that, if you want: https://chat.whatsapp.com/HH3xFaZ7Ab0624x5g2syuW
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Muralidharan Jagannathan
2 years ago
Hi
Sorry I Andreas .. I can’t make it … my cough is not going away … small excretion is making it worse … I hope you all have a wonderful day in the mountains … wish I was able to come ..
Thanks
Murali
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Georgi I.
2 years ago
Morning, I’ll be 10 mins late. See you in the train!
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Andreas Anselm
2 years ago
we are going inside the train. you can find us inside there.
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